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Editorial: Seagate
7200.11 Drive Issues! |
Date Published:
01-31-2009 |
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Millsy |
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Diceman |
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A warning for all Segate 7200.11 drive owners!
In case you aren't 100% up to date on all the latest tech news, there is
something you might not know. Seagate has been having a lot of issues with there
7200.11 line-up of drives, problems that should concern everyone who has their
drives.
Initially, problems seemed to be limited to the 1.5TB versions, drives were
freezing during large video transfers and were then inaccessible. Thankfully, Seagate seemed to be openly admitting the problem, and doing things
like offering free data recovery.
Now however, there is talk of more problems with the 7200.11 series. The 1TB and
500GB versions seem to be ones most often affected. Problems include, but are
not limited to a “Click of death”, showing as a “0GB” drive, or simply not
showing up in the Bios at all.
Some are even claiming that Seagate is deleting users posts about these newer
problems. Some drives have an update available, others have a section telling a
user to contact support for an update. These same users are being told only that
“there is a update set to be released in a few days”, but not what to do with
their drives in the meantime.
The problem here is that, when a drive stops being detected correctly in the
Bios, the updated firmware will not help. Your only options are then to either
send the drive back to Seagate in exchange for a replacement, or pay the huge
sum of money for data recovery. Seagate has posted assurances that data on the
drives is not affected, and that it is still all there.
Unfortunately, that is a lot of money for most users, especially when Seagate
has priced it's 500GB drives so well, that even a budget PC might have one or
two of these drives. The other big problem is, there is no way for Seagate to
contact the owners of these drives directly -BEFORE- a problem surfaces.
If you thought all that was bad, be warned that, until Seagate pulled some of
their updates, users were reporting that, while it worked for 750GB and 1TB
versions, 500GB drives were being broken by the update itself! So what do I recommend you do with the drives? I have no clue. I'm only glad
that all my important information is stored on 500GB drives from 7200.10 or
lower lineup. In my own collection, I seem to only have a single 1Tb 7200.11 that
does fall under the serial # range. It is not in use, and won't be until things
are cleared up.
For now, the only thing I will recommend, is. Backup Backup Backup! If you can't
afford to lose it, you better have it in at least 2 places!
Update
02-09-2009: Seagate 7200.11 problems, a potential
fix.
I received an email from one of the many people
concerned about their Seagate drives. Jeroen
actually had a link to a potential fix for some
of the drives that may have already failed. Jeroen
mentions in his message, but I would like to
re-iterate here as well. This would be ONLY for ADVANCED
users. No one is going to offer any help if something is screwed up
after following any of these instructions.
That said, for someone who cannot afford the
$600 or more it costs to have someone else recover your data, this is
something to look very seriously at.
To
my knowledge, the most recent firmware update for the 7200.11 series
(called SD1A or SD1B, depending on drive model) does prevent your
drive from entering the so called BSY-state (with the BIOS not being
able to detect the drive) or reporting as 0GB, so there IS a 'fix'.
However, if your drive has already 'crashed' due to this firmware
related error, e.g. got stuck in a BSY-state or has the LBA=0
problem, there are a few options:
- send the drive back to your
retailer for warranty (you loose your data)
- Seagate offers free
data recovery for 'crashed'/inaccessible drives (contact their
support)
- check out the 'Solution
for Seagate 7200.11 HDDs'
topic on MSFN (for advanced users only), which describes how you can
unlock your 'BSY' drive yourself. (I actually recovered my own
ST3500320AS drive last Friday using this guide)
For
your interest: via
this
page on the Seagate website
you can check whether your drive is affected or not, either by serial
or model number. It will point you to the correct firmware update as
well.
For my own situation, I confirmed that I only
have a single drive that falls under the affected range of drives.
Calling Seagate's Canadian support number resulted in a fairly long
wait on hold (45 minutes, their support site seems to be very busy at
the moment as well), and an initially very concerning conversation.
At first, I was told that I would have to
attempt the firmware update on my own, and that Seagate would only
replace the drive if that failed. After I commented that their
website specifically recommends *not* to attempt to update the
firmware on your own, as they have a
warranty
replacement program for just such a situation, I got a much
different answer. A quick break on hold, and I was then instructed to
simply follow the online instructions for returning a drive.
Seagate did not have any other suggestions for
me, and they are not offering to ship my affected drive out to them
for free. There was no mention of any data recovery programs in
place, and they did not have any comment about how frequent these
cases are. (However, I could hear someone in the background asking
“Another one of those .11 drives?”, so take that as you will)
For the peace of mind of getting a drive
unaffected by the current issues, it will cost me anywhere from
$10-20 depending on how I chose to ship the drive. This is not a
perfect solution for everyone, and updating the firmware myself is
definitely an option.
I know of someone locally who has 7 1Tb drives
in a
Thecus
7700, all of the drives falling in the affected range , I am very
glad I am not in his situation. Dumping a 6TB array to send in the
drives (not an easy task), or risking the array while updating each
drive, either one at a time, or all at once? Those are very difficult
choices.
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